Try this out for slow paced. My brother directed me to a ride from the bike shop in Memphis on Saturday. It was supposed to be a "No Drop Ride". We were even instructed that if someone had a flat the entire group would be stopping to wait. After a little over an hour of chasing the group down at a 17 mph pace, I gave up. Apparantly, slow paced and no drop mean different things in the West! Anyway, I plan to be at the Thursday night ride if it does not rain.