I may do the comfort zone if dad wants to try again. If I can get my gearing fixed today I will be in for the 30 He had a blast last time, he just felt bad for slowing the group down.

I've got a nice out & back to the bottom of Petty Gap mapped out. Easy directions, 15mi total but since its an out & back, you can turn around at any distance you want without getting dropped or lost. Anyone that wants a hill can go on up Petty Gap. There are other roads handy in case someone wants more distance.