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Andy Bloxham
 Dec 26, 07 - 8:58 PM |
Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Hello All, Lets talk competitions!!!! The committee is keen to get more people interested in club competitions. I have suggested some kind of "combat" comp with electric epp type models. Mike asked for coments in the newsletter but to date has had none. Anyone got any ideas that they could suggest??? Anyone know if there is any kind of electronic gadget that could be used to keep score etc, Im sure I have seen something in the past but cant seem to find it anymore!!! Come on people, lets try and get more involved before the club competitions dry up completely!!!!!! 
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Paul Yorke
Dec 27th, 2007 - 4:23 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Hi Andy Well, as one of the members who competes in club competitions the least, the one competition I did find interesting in the last few years was the AULD competition when I and about 25% of members all flew the same models, i.e. same airframe, motor, battery and ESC etc. I can recall the enjoyment and spectacle of 20 or more aircraft being launched at the same time with only pilot skill determining the outcome. OK, so that "concept" ran its course and attendees dwindled with time. RG had some interesting ideas which he raised in the Christmas Folly Flyer. I agree I'm not the one to advise or decide these issues, but there is a possibility that the majority of members don't feel competitive but just want to fly their models in a safe environment. Actually the majority of members don't fly either so competitions will be an anathema to them. I believe that competitions should not involve any special expense for members to take part, they should be entertaining, and the program of tasks should be achievable by an averagely skilled pilot. Once the correct formula is found, then we’ll have some well attended competitions. I’m not holding my breath though!
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Mike Smart
Dec 28th, 2007 - 12:46 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Will you be participating in the AULD in 2008? 
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Paul Yorke
Dec 28th, 2007 - 12:54 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Well Mike, I do intend to fly more in 2008 than I did in 2007, but then that would only have to be once!!! Seriously though, I'll make the judgement about flying the AULD when I've seen the rules when they emerge. My comments above "I believe that competitions should not involve any special expense for members to take part, they should be entertaining, and the program of tasks should be achievable by an averagely skilled pilot." would apply though. But I take your message as a challenge so will do my best to attend. Will Lipo's be required? The batteries I envested in for the AULD model are "c**p" and no longer hold their charge so I'll need something new anyway. Paul 
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Mike Smart
Dec 28th, 2007 - 1:19 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
That would be great Paul The rules will be unchanged other than you will be allowed to use Lipos (type/capacity to be finalised). I would strongly suggest that you do as Lipos are far more predictable and despite what you hear, long lasting. In my opinion, the other batteries were c**p when they were new, let alone after they have been in storage I take your point about competitions not requiring special equipment and I agree, however unless it is a one-model comp like the AULD, it is very difficult to be competitive without using special equipment. For example, once someone uses a moulded model with crow braking and all the bells and whistles in the glider comps, its not impossible to beat them, but you are at a disadvantage. Its a bit like trying to beat Ferrari in Jenson Button's Honda Another example is the Freestyle Aerobatics, where by the very nature, this is a very exciting and entertaining competition for entrants and observers alike. However, if you entered with your trainer, not only are you unlikely to win, but the show would not be as entertaining. Mike |
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Mike Smart
Dec 29th, 2007 - 4:47 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Bump..............? |
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Martin Mc
Jan 4th, 2008 - 8:56 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Lost the last message! Trying again! Have been experimenting with my Orion E for the electroslot using various cheapo BL motors and packs, and have found that in order to keep the cg somewhere near the correct position that the GP 1100 converted to 8 cell gives the best results so far. My question is: since I can get lots of 30sec. climbs from this pack it may defeat the object if we do not restrict the pack capacity? The Wattage/weight idea is good if you are willing to spend a lot of money on a suitable meter, which I am not, and expect that not a lot of other people will either. I think that the pack capacity perhaps relative to the model weight should be taken into consideration, or should we limit this comp. to the Orion? |
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Paul Y
Jan 4th, 2008 - 9:44 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Well I think Martin has made some valid points. It does highlight the need to identify some competitive activities with flying models that don't attract what I call "advantage by expenditure". From my perspective balloon bursting, limbo etc are battery choice, motor and weight independent. Flying skill will be key in all these. Even pylon racing is more skill than expenditure in my view. I bet we could come up with quite a few similar comps where spending cash on the latest technology wouldn't offer any strong advantage. I recall RG was thinking along these lines. Regards Paul |
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Mike Smart
Jan 4th, 2008 - 11:03 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Hi Paul, Balloon bursting and limbo may not be 'expenditure advatange' but they are model specific. Its a lot easier to do both with a fun fly model as you can turn around very quickly and have another pass, whereas flying say a trainer with pilots of equal skill, would be a disadvantage. Pylon racing is probably a bad example as moulded models are the fastest and you are back to expenditure again. The AULD is in my view the 'levelest playing field' you are likely to enter in and yet we are struggling for entrants. Maybe 'Mr CD' might like to chip in here? Mike |
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Martin Mc
Jan 4th, 2008 - 11:19 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Paul, I quite agree. In my previous club we would run spontaneous comps. such as egg dropping, max. spins from a timed climb, limbo eliminator where the string would be lowered for each flight and max. No. of touch and go`s in a set time, not to mention the chuck glider comps. when some were even lost in thermals. Most models would be suited for this type of comp. Balloon bursting is one of the best given calm weather. This does not mean that we cannot run more serious conps. such as scale, glider, aerobatics as well but the former ones are great fun when there are a few people there on a good day. |
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Martin Mc
Jan 4th, 2008 - 11:39 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Another comp which springs to mind and can be attempted by anyone is a timed run into and down wind for the fastest for the fastest and slowest combined speeds. |
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Mike Smart
Jan 5th, 2008 - 10:19 AM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Great ideas guys, keep them coming, have you noticed that this has the highest number of views? I'm all for non-expenditure advantage competitions, this is the key to getting participation, I'm sure. Having just looked at putting together a competitive package for the electroslot comp, you could be looking at anywhere between an optimistic £200 and £500 plus and in the end I decided it wasn't worth it for three comps, I will have to stick with what I have and hope its not windy. I'm pleased to see that there are some of you who are echoing my views. Mike |
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Paul Yorke
Jan 5th, 2008 - 5:01 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Hmmm. More thoughts. Does the actual word "Competition" put people off? "Fly in" sounds less imposing. Competitons are for the committee members who win them. Fly in's are for the rest of us. |
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Mike Smart
Jan 6th, 2008 - 12:23 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Hmmmmm................
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Peter Dunnett
Jan 6th, 2008 - 4:40 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
I went to a lot of trouble to put my views on competitions down in the wee small hours of Jan4/5th and I see that they have not been published. Am I being censored? Peter 
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Mike Smart
Jan 6th, 2008 - 4:51 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Peter, Did you fill in the code characters in the box at the bottom before you clicked on post message? Mike |
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Martin Mc
Jan 6th, 2008 - 5:28 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
My last message for what it was worth has also not appeared. MM |
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Martin Mc
Jan 6th, 2008 - 5:32 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Apologies. Peter, ensure that you click on the box before typing the characters. I may have had a senior moment! |
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Peter Dunnett
Jan 6th, 2008 - 6:05 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
YOu could be right. I put the code in before previewing but not I think before replying. Martin - edging close 99.8 meters Peter |
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Martin Mc
Jan 6th, 2008 - 6:10 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Peter, still cannot get past 98.8. |
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Mike Smart
Jan 7th, 2008 - 8:21 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Peter, I may have found the problem - I tried to leave a message here from work, but it wouldn't (work that is). I noticed that Paul's website uses Java, which my computer a work won't deal with because it has a later version of Windows that doesn't support Java - could that be the problem? Perhaps Paul will chip in? Mike |
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Paul Yorke
Jan 7th, 2008 - 11:26 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Not sure why a later version of Windows would impact Java applets from working Folks. If by later version of Windows you mean Vista, this message is being written using a PC with Vista. Don't think there's a later Windows version than that. Seriously though, Java needs to be enabled in the browser though this is generally a default situation. Some companies disable Java on in house PCs to stop pop ups and spam. Do this to enable Java on your browser. Click "Tools" --> "Internet Options". Select the Advanced Tab, and scroll down to "Java (Sun)" Check the box next to the "Use Java 2" version Next, select the Security Tab, and select the "Custom Level" button. Scroll down to "Scripting of Java applets". Make sure the "Enable" radio button is checked. Click OK to save your preference. Hope this helps. Oh yes, BTW, so far I haven't had to remove any messages. It is necessary however to click into the box below the text and enter the four character code from the image then "post message" as stated by others above. Sometimes I've had to do this more than once because the code isn't easy to read and I've entered it incorrectly ..... 
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Paul Yorke
Jan 7th, 2008 - 11:29 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
I've really strayed from the subject of Competitions, with my last posting, apologies. Hope it helped though. Paul |
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Mike Smart
Jan 8th, 2008 - 3:25 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
test |
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Mike Smart
Jan 8th, 2008 - 3:28 PM |
Re: Club Competitions?!?!?!?!
Paul, That didn't work for me, Java is not in my version of Explorer on XP. I have downloaded it direct from Java, but my previous mistake may have been that I didn't fill my name in at the top of the reply sheet  Mike |
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